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Who created Porygon? And who created Porygon2? Those are easy answers, but things start to get dubious... who created the Dubious Disc? Who created Porygon-Z? Was it Team Galactic? Team Rocket? Both?

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Chapters:
00:00 Gen 4 Remakes!
00:39 Anker Soundcore Life Q35 Promo
02:04 The Porygon Line Explained
04:52 Did Team Galactic Create Porygon-Z?
07:54 Who Created Porygon? Silph Co.
09:02 Team Rocket Scientist Ross!
10:46 What is the Dubious Disc?
12:10 Who Created Porygon-Z?
14:25 Porygon-Z's Ģ̸̡̝̘̦̲̗͕̙͔̖͚̥̪̝̰͇̠̻͈̫͇̩̬̪̦͍͉̲̟͓͊͐͐ͅĺ̷͇͔̲̣͋̏̂̑̈̈̇̚͝i̵̡̝̠̮̼̜̭̣̯͍̞̥͉͕͈̦̝͋̆̽́̾̇̑͋̍̃̏̊̀̿̑̾̅͌̀̑͆̈́̐̐̍̉̈́̅͗͑̐̕͘̚͝͠͝t̷̡̡̻̥̹̘̹̼͔̭̲̪͇͕̞͚̫͓̖̹̩̲̋͗̒̀͑ͅc̵̢̥̼͎̹̱͓̺̠͚̰̰̟͓͓̭̤̎̊͊͐̔̽̂̎̀͗̓̏̄̀̍͗̏̏͆̑̀̚͘̕͜͠͠͝͝h̸̨̢̧̭̯̦̦͕͉̱̼̥̰̱͓̦͚̙̼͓͉̟͔͓̤̪̭̠͔͈͍̘͇̜̯͉̟̓̉̀͛͛̿̍̏̈̅̀̉̀̌͆̐́̑̊̉̑̕͘̚̚͜͝y̶̢̨̲̺͓͓͂̄̓͗́̃͑͂͗̋̔͂̍͑̚̕̕͝͠ ̵̨̢̡̡̛͍̭̦̥̣͔̩̤̦̠̝̊͌̓̓̌͋͌̽̇̃̀́͗͌͗̐̓̋̍̋̒́͑̅͛͘͘̚̕̚͜͝͠B̸̨̛̛͍̻̦̱͆̆̈́̄̾̓̓̂̈́͊̇̄͑̍̐͝e̷̛̘̬̎͑̌̏̍̓̽̎̐́̓̀̉̍̈́̊̄́̈́́͛̆̽͛̌̐̚͝͠ḩ̷̡̡̡̡̨̭̻͓͕̱̪̥̭͈̼̜̼̩͕̼̯̝̥͔̞̦͎̳͙̄̓͛͐̊̒́̽͑͑́̀͊̇́̔͋̉͜͝͝a̶̡̢̛̳͉̬͕̳͙̭̫̲̥͕͈̺̬̤͈͙̖̩̞̖̗͚̬̙̻̮͖͛͛̔͊͒̈́͗̕̚͜͜v̸̨̨͈͇͇̯̯̜͖͓̻̗͎̰̣͈̲̣͓̱͈̤̲̎̍͐̈́̓̊̊̀̒͑̓̍̇̂̓̂̊̂̀̔̃̆̀͒̔̈́͐̕̚͜͠͝ͅį̶̭̺̦̖̣̺̳̼̣̙̼̹̦̩͔̞̤̭̠͇̲̗͎̪̫̙͎͇̠͕̖́͗̒̿͋̽̽̓̊͜͠ŏ̸̦̭̝͙͓̰͎̪̟͈̥͈̺̠̙̘̲̰̙̐͐̈́̏̋̌̑͋̄̒̈̀̑̑̚̕͠r̵͇̰̔̎̑̌̃́̑̀̉̀͘̕̕͝͝ͅ


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  • Wolf racer
    Wolf racer

    Why do I feel like I've seen this video before? I usually like a video, which lets me know I've watched the video. Hmmm

  • Julien Morgan
    Julien Morgan

    This video made me realize that the alien dimension porygon z is supposed to travel to is the 3rd dimension since the games were 2d and it's limbs look like x, y, and z coordinates.

  • LifeLessons
    LifeLessons

    BUT... don't the events in Gen 2 and Gen 4 take place roughly at the same time, evidenced by the news report about the Lake of Rage incidence with the Red Gyarados at the beginning of the Gen 4 games...? So, how much time do we want to give the Scientist Ross for him to develop the Dubious Disc, then?

  • Harkedodarkeson
    Harkedodarkeson

    This is a very interesting theory. I really like it! My only idea of a possible hole is that in Pokémon Generations, Cyrus is able to call Team Galactic to tell them that he's fine, but to not come looking for him. I know this might not be canon, but it does prove that Cyrus is able to contact Team Galactic and tell them that he's fine, so they wouldn't need to create Porygon Z.

  • Eric Gabriel Alves De Carvalho
    Eric Gabriel Alves De Carvalho

    Soo, tecnicaly when i took porygon to my team i disbanded Team galactic with their own weapon?! Cool!!

  • Mathtron 5000
    Mathtron 5000

    6:49 hi bob

  • Thomas Li
    Thomas Li

    If Porygon Z worked as planned, there would be a crossover between Pokemon and some other media.

  • Kevin Mortimer
    Kevin Mortimer

    In a realistic setting, it would be shocking there aren't more Porygon evolutions, given its code-based nature. The modding community would have a field day with it, and I bet Porygon qT and Porygon uwu would have been made within a week of each other

  • Kelly Gingrich
    Kelly Gingrich

    Very interesting - was half expecting a nord vpn sponsor on this one haha

  • Red Panda
    Red Panda

    in Jaiden animations nuzzlocke squuooooop dies to a scientist with a porygon 2 that looks similar to the scientist could this be the crazy rocket scientist? (srry if someone mentioned this before I didn mean to copy)

  • nebula north
    nebula north

    Porygon is literally the first digimon in the pokemon world

  • Beta Sprite
    Beta Sprite

    I talk about Porygon-Z a lot. He's my favorite, and the best.

  • LezzerNet
    LezzerNet

    Lockstin: "It is rushed software that is probably buggy." Also Lockstin: "Why is it acting so weird?"

  • John Doe
    John Doe

    I thought the Dubious Disc was a virus and that's what's wrong with Z

  • Player 000
    Player 000

    Ah yes, let me use this *SUS* disc on cyber bird.

  • Player 000
    Player 000

    Porygon-Z looked cool to me the first time I saw it.

  • Marav Reviews
    Marav Reviews

    4:18 Other dimensions? *_Aether Foundation Lusamine Theme Starts Playing._*

  • Anthony Rebuffo
    Anthony Rebuffo

    BOB FROM SMG4

  • ZitroKingCX
    ZitroKingCX

    How would pokemon explain themselves with Porygon Z in the new Pokemon Arceus game?

  • Game and Time
    Game and Time

    How can Porygan Z be made BEFORE their leader get trapped in another dimension.

  • Rikoyasha
    Rikoyasha

    Wouldn't the Scientist still be in Johto? DP starts off with Lake of Rage on the news right? Gen 2 and 4 events are basically happening at the same time with alil head start in gen 2s story

  • Glitch 9001
    Glitch 9001

    pog

  • Sans The Skeleton
    Sans The Skeleton

    Anybody else notice the ball guy plush in the background or am I the only one?

  • Iamstickman
    Iamstickman

    6:49 nice SMG4 reference with Bob in the bottom left corner. 😎👍

  • kilRkatt
    kilRkatt

    6:45 nobody has mentioned the SMG4 reference in this part, so as a marvel villain once said: "Fine. I'll do it myself."

  • Man of Trumpets
    Man of Trumpets

    Was that a subtle reference to the SMG4 character Bob? Maybe

  • RadimusCisco
    RadimusCisco

    Loved that lore

  • motxmod
    motxmod

    I so want Porygon2 to get a split evo to Porygon3 so Silph Co can finally explore space.

  • BlankPapers
    BlankPapers

    So, I’m assuming you only find the Dubious Disc during the post game, otherwise, it would feel weird if you can get a Pokémon that has the purpose of saving Cyrus before Cyrus gets lost.

  • Kiera Larissa Barrett
    Kiera Larissa Barrett

    0:13 I love that reference to the scorpions

  • Andrés Eduardo Clavasquin Regalado
    Andrés Eduardo Clavasquin Regalado

    The fact that Porygon can he updated with electronic hardware and data, confirms more the other theory of Pokémon being beings of light and energy more than just pure magic.

  • Andrés Eduardo Clavasquin Regalado
    Andrés Eduardo Clavasquin Regalado

    What? Cyrus stays in the Distortion World? That is kinda crazy. How could he live there?

  • Drow Ranger
    Drow Ranger

    Something I dont get it, Arceus sealed Giratina away coz he and Hoopa tried over throne Arceus and Giratina did horrible things to the world and now a kid in Sinnoh just goes into Giratina's prison world and captures it, and brings it back to the real world. How would Arceus react on it? A litterely kid goes to the realm where Giratina is prisoned by the God Arceus and a kid just takes it with it. Is Arceus seeing this or notice this, would not Arceus be mad coz someone broked Giratina free to the world. I mean its like go into a real prison irl and free one of the worst criminal out and get away with it. Do Arceus think Giratina can become a good pokemon if it sticks with the trainer and let it go with it? That I don't get it.

  • Xavier Oliveira
    Xavier Oliveira

    Do you that in the Galactic base there is a scientist that uses a porygon 2?

  • Paul Oltman
    Paul Oltman

    And I think that team rocket and team Galactic are going to have a shared leadership with new leaders proton for team rocket and temporally mars for team galactic

  • Paul Oltman
    Paul Oltman

    And I bet the johto region is going to be In post game

  • GoobPlayzGames
    GoobPlayzGames

    9:12 is that a dba reference?

  • Joseph Souther
    Joseph Souther

    6:46 there's Bob from SMG4 Edit: I am aware that's a Garo from The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask

  • pierce mc gamer Olsen
    pierce mc gamer Olsen

    now that i think about the end from minecraft and the ditoetion world have a lot more in common

  • Icalasari
    Icalasari

    8:20 - Siplh

  • Lex Ruptor
    Lex Ruptor

    Gen 5 remakes either gonna top og Gen 5, or ruin it.

  • Master Markus
    Master Markus

    12:32 - I really like the way he rubs the Porygon2. Very satisfying.

  • Trogg!
    Trogg!

    Now i want a MMORPG Pokemon with Factions... players start out as a normal kid trainer but once theyve reached a certain overall level, they get opportunities to join factions like Team "INSERT" or become a Ranger, Officer, Nurse or even a Gym faction which leads to becoming a GymLeader and still interact with players of other factions.

  • SilentL9
    SilentL9

    one thing... technically you could have a porygon z before cyrus even went into giratina's world soooooo um

  • Minespatch
    Minespatch

    Maybe Poyrgonz is a reference to cars? With each poyrgon it gets rounder and rounder. XD

  • Mark LEE
    Mark LEE

    Hello, Bob!

  • Six tales
    Six tales

    I will say, there is a scientist with a Porygon2 that you battle in one of the places you end up storming when going after Cyrus. It doesn't sound too Farfetch'd.

  • Noa Edlund
    Noa Edlund

    it is practically established that gen 1&3 and 2&4 happen around pretty much the same time, so interactivity between team rocket and galaxy isn't impossible

  • Dragon James
    Dragon James

    When was gen 4 not talked about?

  • CooperDaBooper
    CooperDaBooper

    I NEED that Porygon2 plush, it is SO FREAKING CUTE

  • Super Tingle Gamer
    Super Tingle Gamer

    wow! Lockstin got permission from Blitzit to use his music. Now all we need is for Lockstin and Blitzit to collaborate and make some music for a hypothetical Kascade edition game. it doesn't and need to be a real game but I would not complain if it was in future Kascade videos.

  • Hotaru*Is*Here
    Hotaru*Is*Here

    Duuuuuude, I completely forgot how freaking awesome the Galactic theme was!!!!

  • Alexander yates
    Alexander yates

    the g at the beginning of the vid gave the answer away

  • Sascha
    Sascha

    i really enjoy that storyteller voice c:

  • Oliver
    Oliver

    The Johto and Sinnoh games play out parallel to each other so th scientist probably wouldnt go to sinnoh AFTER the fall of team rocket.

  • Rossteen Mansouri-Rad
    Rossteen Mansouri-Rad

    Wait but GS and DP happen concurrently. Ross would have left Rocket after they first disbanded unless he and Charon leave mid game (Charon does show up later)

  • buckethatboy431
    buckethatboy431

    "Basic space travel" he says.

  • Grey Warden Invasion
    Grey Warden Invasion

    The sprite of the Porygon Z I transfered from Omega Ruby to Shield doesn't load properly. It's funny that out of all my old transferred Pokemon this happened only to Porygon Z.

  • Dr Wryygee
    Dr Wryygee

    Porygon-Z is one of my fave Pokémon. This is damn well excellent.

  • Dr Wryygee
    Dr Wryygee

    6:50 HEY LOOK IT'S BOB

  • Dr Wryygee
    Dr Wryygee

    So I'm going to check if someone gets this, but I nicknamed my Porygon-Z Luke.

  • Nyssa
    Nyssa

    Honk!

  • Epyonmk3
    Epyonmk3

    Mahogany.

  • kirby animation
    kirby animation

    1:15 the Kardashians bums looks more real than those headphones

  • Rpesce
    Rpesce

    There are a few problems with this theory. Gen 2 and Gen 4 are supposed to be happening at roughly the same time. Porygon Z exists in the world before Cyrus goes missing in platinum. If the point of Porygon Z was to free Cyrus, why does it still exist in diamond and pearl? Would all future games in the series need to be following platinum's universe? It's likely that Galatic were the first to create Porygon Z, I just think your reason for why was flawed. Dimensional travel could have simply been an early attempt at trying to reach Dialga, Palkia, or Giratina. Everything else still fits

  • T Gamerz
    T Gamerz

    Lockstin : who created porygon z Me : huh, Gamefreak

  • Slimetoki
    Slimetoki

    Theory that has no ground what so ever but for fun, if ditto are failed mewtwo experiments, could missingno be failed porygon creations?

  • Natto Nep
    Natto Nep

    6:45 Is that Bob in the bottom left corner? SMG4 needs to keep an eye on him...

  • Tahra Aalur
    Tahra Aalur

    Damn it, Ross.

  • Chialuen Lis
    Chialuen Lis

    6:49 hey, it's Bob!

  • Alex Sines
    Alex Sines

    I love this episode and it really tied up a mystery well. It’d be even better if 1. Everyone acted like it’s a new Pokémon(having it in your party) and 2. You could find the Doubious disc in Team Galactic’s base AFTER Cyrus is sucked into the distortion world

  • M Alexander
    M Alexander

    One thing about Pokémon is that when someone says "it's rumored that-" or "a legend says-" it's generally a solid assumption that it's correct unless there's a more direct contradiction

  • Alex D Luffy
    Alex D Luffy

    Plus look at its eyes the colors matches the team Galactic logo

  • KToon
    KToon

    PORY

  • Ян Котлетка
    Ян Котлетка

    11:02 WHEN THE PATCH IS SUS! 😱

  • Sneasel
    Sneasel

    Cyrus isn’t a commander, he’s a Leader/Boss. xD Also Mars does vow to go and rescue Cyrus after the post-game events. Pretty much the only ones who cared about him were Mars and Jupiter.

  • Andrew Smith
    Andrew Smith

    What's causing the strange behaviour? Probably a logic error, those can be tricky.

  • Dr. Jose
    Dr. Jose

    When lockstin does the promo and there's an edit of the guy running with the headphones on if you put it on 0.5x you can see it glitch out

  • pokesonav
    pokesonav

    He despperately tries to lewd anything he can. CuUuUuRvEs

  • DustMonkey92
    DustMonkey92

    Only makes sense if you get the dubious disk after Cyrus disappears

  • Simon Lucy
    Simon Lucy

    One of the most underrated Pokémon

  • Anime King
    Anime King

    So they could summon the eternal dragon to wish back... Person in the back: Cyrus! Lml.

  • DarkWolf5101
    DarkWolf5101

    @6:49 Is that an smg4 reference?

  • Greg Edwards
    Greg Edwards

    I think Colress made it. There's evidence that the P2 Laboratory in Unova was used for its creation. Colress worked for Team Plasma at the time. Colress also has interest in Ultra Space and the Aether Foundation and it's established that he used his time at Team Plasma to advance his own personal projects.

    • Solgaleo35
      Solgaleo35

      Or maybe the Aether foundation themselves made it as a sort of precursor to Type:Null. An aether employee is the one who gives you Porygon and the Upgrade, while the Dubious Disc is found in Aether Paradise.

  • Alleister
    Alleister

    7:45 "To answer that, we need to talk about parallel universes"

  • Enrique Garcia
    Enrique Garcia

    Biblically accurate angles

  • basil kinnie
    basil kinnie

    placing my money on amaze-all theyre pretty sus

  • Groudon Rider
    Groudon Rider

    LOCKSTIN IS AN SMG4 FAN!?!?!?

  • Vanish
    Vanish

    Why would Team Galactic have the dubious disk before Mr. Bad Guy is taken?

  • Shawn Coney
    Shawn Coney

    I still think porygon should have been a split evolution........or got one in every version lol that fit the game of course.

  • aluran
    aluran

    They created it for a Dubious reason

  • aluran
    aluran

    A brilliant episode I wish more digital pokemon are made

  • MEGA Broderick
    MEGA Broderick

    Lockstin: “Porygon Z was made by Ross to save Cyrus and-“ Me: Wait, hold on, but Porygon Z already exist in the world when Cyrus was alive and on earth. How could they “make” it for saving Cyrus if he is already fine? Lockstin: “It was used to save Cyrus since he’s in an alien dimension.” Me: That...doesn’t answer my question...

  • Kara Miller
    Kara Miller

    I just bought 2 pairs I hope it helps you out

  • Tyler Thibodeaux
    Tyler Thibodeaux

    am i the only one who spent this whole video wondering if they'd release mid-gen pokemon like they did with the dlc and finally give us the true porygon-3 as a split evolution?

  • Dog robot drifter thing
    Dog robot drifter thing

    Did I see bob from smg4 at 6:50

  • Hrafnagud
    Hrafnagud

    I think the theory is pretty solid, but since you can get the Dubious Disk before the post-game, I would say that Porygon-Z was created by Cyrus to either explore the Distortion World or to access the timespace where Dialga and Palkia live

  • Tet Hotarubi
    Tet Hotarubi

    How about a video about New Mauville?

  • Zach Schmitt
    Zach Schmitt

    I really hope they include the distortion world in the D&P remakes

  • Llewellyn Duck
    Llewellyn Duck

    at 8:25 it says Siplh Co instead of Silph Co, just sayin

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